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My dear General,
You will remember that when we were in Paris two Deputations arrived from South Africa and asked to see me, one headed by General Hertzog,[
2] representing the Nationalist Party in South Africa;[
3] the other consisting of a Deputation of the native inhabitants of the Union.[
4] I consulted General Botha[
5] and he agreed that it was desirable that I should give an interview to both. The record of my interview with General Hertzog you already have, and it has been published in the Press.[
6] I now write to you in regard to an interview I had with the Native Deputation. I append copies of the shorthand report of the meeting together with various documents which they submitted to me.[
7] You will observe that I made it clear that the questions which they raised were within the province of the Government of the Union and Parliament of South Africa, and that the British Govern[men]t, therefore[,] can take no action in regard to them. I further pointed out to the Deputation that I had only heard their side of the case, and could, therefore, form no opinion as to the justice of their representations. At the same time I promised to communicate to you what they said, and I, therefore, attach a full report of our interview. At the same time I should like to lay before you certain impressions which were left upon my mind as a result of this interview.
The first was that these men were clearly labouring under a deep sense of injustice. They evidently felt that the existing pass system[
8] operated very unjustly in a large number of cases. They were sure that some recent Land Act passed in the Union Parli[a]ment deprived the native population unjustly of its land and tended to reduce them to the position of wanderers in the country of their birth. They further were convinced that there was a larger and powerful section in South Africa who were bent on emphasising the colour line, and in preventing the education and advancement of the native population.
These were the principal grievances raised, though there are others as you will see from the record of the interview. There was, however, one other point which, I think, deserves attention. They said that in the Transvaal, the Orange Free State, and Natal, the native population had no votes and no representatives in the legislature at all, while in the Cape province a certain number of them had votes, but no direct representatives of their own. They said that they had repeatedly been told that they ought not to ventilate their grievances outside South Africa and that they ought to secure their reforms by constitutional means at home. But, they asked, what was the use of calling upon them to obey the law and observe constitutional methods in their agitation for betterment and reform if they were given no adequate constitutional means for doing so. If this is a correct statement of the facts it seems to me a very powerful point.
There is one other general consideration which occurs to me. It is clear that the dark age of Africa is commencing to pass away. The negro population of the world is beginning to stir into conscious life. It has developed many leaders of force and ability as you will realise if you have followed recent movements among the negroes of America. The negro-question, therefore, is one which affects us all, for what is done in South Africa immediately reacts outside, and what happens outside similarly has its effect in South Africa. We shall, therefore, watch with sympathy and interest the steps which the Government and Parliament of South Africa make in endeavouring to find a satisfactory solution of this difficult question.
Finally, I would like to suggest that you should, yourself, have an interview with this Deputation on its return to South Africa.[
9] I was greatly impressed by the ability shown by the speakers. They presented their case with moderation, with evident sincerity, and with power. It is evident that you have in Africa men who can speak for native opinion and make themselves felt, not only within their country, but outside. I am sure you will be impressed by them, and I am equally sure that you will be able to remove the impression which seems to rest there at present, that they cannot get people in authority to listen to them with sympathy. Ever Sincerely,
[D. Lloyd George]
PRO, CO 537/1197, file 1486. TL, carbon copy.
Recommended Citation:
The Marcus Garvey and Universal Negro Improvement Association Papers,
ed. Robert A. Hill
(Columbia, S.C.: Model Editions Partnership, 2000).
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